Oneohtrix Point Never - Garden of Delete

[Guest Chesney]

The DX7 was a way for certain yamaha shareholders to make money. They put their names down for the patch authors and fully expected to be paid by the hit.

 

Also, I have been giving this new track more time and still, I feel the same as the first time I heard it. I can not get past certain bits. In fact, right from the start it's cool and very musical, I really like it, but when the noodling comes in it annoys me. The sound I can get used to, it's no different to listening to enya with the cheesy PM preset vibe but there was a chance to do something really amazing. actually 80% of the structure and melody is there and I can hear where I want it to go (ha) but the remaining 20% are just wrong notes and spoils a really good idea.

 

I will buy the album though, there is enough for me to like and like SP's latest, it did not disappoint after hating the preview track.

[joshuatxuk]

then it clicked. amazing all of a sudden. then I purchased his entire back catalog and became absolutely obsessed with a bunch of earlier albums and didn't listen to much else for a bunch of weeks.

 

Had that with VHS Head (the 'clicking / amazing all of a sudden' feeling).

 

same here with Burial - there's some poppier stuff I've had the same experience with, like the xx and Washed Out

[joshuatxuk]

on the fence with RBMA - john e. has laid out some pretty damning criticism of it, but then again a writer I respect, Chris Ott, gave a succinct defense of it

 

honestly I find them fairly tolerable compared to review entities like pitchfork or any of the Buzz media music sites, where there's a open secret PR firm enabling, advertisement appeasing nastiness behind all of it. RBMA seems more akin to Resident Adviser in the sense that the focus is on promotion of musicians, and it doesn't seem to have same snarky articles and news content farming that makes FACT less appealing at times

 

it is a weird fucking model though, just about every other entity Red Bull sponsors is sports related, from niche extreme sports to a Formula 1 team. It is just an energy drink, it's not like they manufacture weapons or defense industry components or anything. It's not quite the same as more iffy corporate endorsements / funded things I've seen over the years (GE and Matthew Dear for example). It's just, I dunno, kind of absurd to behold a company endorsing underground and experimental music, to the same humorous effect as say the 50s esque omnipresent Kreb corporation in Pete and Pete, Octane in Lego, Mom's corporation Futurama, etc.

[WeAreOceans]

never forget

 

 

 

 

boy that album sucked

 

was it supposed to just be a piss take of metal? I don't get it

[manmower]

I understand the reasons for being against it but I don't see anything weird or exceptional about it, it doesn't seem all that different from other tobacco/alcohol/fizzy drinks sponsorship also spanning across sports and music festivals etcetera.

 

What they all have in common is that their product is pretty much useless, compared to the companies that are trying to sell you a car or a phone, something that serves some clearer purpose. So the marketing becomes entirely about projecting an image; sporty, youthful, hip, you name it. Red Bull's thing is the extreme: going for acrobatic flying and cliff diving over football, underground dance music over your mega pop festival. Other than that detail they're following the book on how to create demand for a product you're providing, but nobody was asking for.

[awepittance]

 

 

it's a corporate attempt to insert an energy drink brand into underground culture for no other reason than to sell energy drinks and increase brand awareness. For someone who is a fan of industrial music/throbbing gristle you should automatically understand why this type of corporate bullshit is bad, and ultimately not good for the health of a scene.

http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/lectures/cosey-fanni-tutti-visceral-sounds

 

 

Apparently RBMA is actually owned by Red Bull. I was not aware that they were actually associated with one another.

Post of the year

flol

Hoooolllyyyyy shit Johnny boy must be red in the face right about now.

 

lol why because Chris and Cosey needs money? RBMA pays people a shit load of money. A friend of mine got paid a lot more than the typical rate for a one night gig.

 

lol eugene. and what was the dx7? an illuminati secret weapon which no one ever bothered to program?

 

also i agree with JE about the red bull music academy, but i just can't get that worked up over it. it's sneaky, but they could be a lot worse. i guess something pretty personal happened there however

i've hated RBMA for a long time dude, a lot longer than anyone I've known in real life being part of it. Disturbing thing is now adays in any thriving electronic music scene you will probably know several RBMA employees current or past 1-2 degrees of separation from you, and i just think its really fucking weird, creepy and sets a very bad precedent.

 

so far Arca is the only big electronic act to speak against the idea of an energy drink marketing PR operation being taken seriously int the electronic music community, its just a matter of time before other smart people start calling out how blatantly fucking stupid it is. looking forward to that time

 

it's actually gotten to the point now after seeing how much damage they've done to people's honesty that a series of investigative reports is in order about how RBMA actually started, what the intentions were, internal memos, shit like that. im determined to blow the lid off these assholes.

Edited September 9, 2015 by John Ehrlichman

[Guest cult fiction]

Betrayed in the Octagon is my #1 favorite track.

Soooo good, how can you not love that track? Perfect!

 

never forget

 

 

 

boy that album sucked

 

was it supposed to just be a piss take of metal? I don't get it

 

Hadn't heard of this, it's uh

 

Not gonna lie if you told me that dude was Travis Stewart just before watching I would have believed it

[YangYing]

this is such a weird thread

[triachus]

RIP FLOW KRANIUM

[drillkicker]

 

 

Lots of people have suggested I give replica a listen

Yeah, that's definitely a 'safe' beginners OPN album. If you can get past the super noisy intro (which actually works quite nicely as a comparison/segue to the next track desipte the fact I don't usually like noise artists) Returnal is grand too (was actually my first OPN purchase)

 

I'd say it's all about Rifts 4 beginners

 

Rifts is definitely the easy train way to get into OPN - great melodies, lush 70's vibe, non-repetitive for the most part, good range of styles to pick from

 

Ummm...

[logakght]

TOP LOL you can't compare pre Replica OPN to post Replica OPN... they are like two different persons!

[autopilot]

I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here. John Erlichmann is a paid corporate shill for Monster Energy Drinks enacting an online campaign to spread FUD about the market dominant (and obviously superior) energy drink brand by discrediting their noble efforts to improve & drastically support the dance music scene.

 

Not gonna work, bro. We're onto you.

[psn]

...when the Redbull has stopped working.

[goonstock]

https://youtu.be/JAAHjhKDLFg?list=PL_klrOneTjGiDK4t7qzJA0qXMMigSlLfS

really reminds me of this for a couple seconds

 

[Hail Sagan]

y'all need to stop bringing OT shit into this thread. Why is derailment the fate of every OPN topic.

 

 

I just rediscovered my favorite thing from the R+7 thread

 

 

[ganus]

I tried to download Paul Lansky flacs off of slsk, thanked the person offering the flacs, and computer proceeded to flip out, with peerblock crashing, slsk not responding. Default reaction was to force shutdown. have since been afraid to take it out of safe mode.

 

Garden of Delete as fuck

Edited September 10, 2015 by ganus

[ganus]

Actually maybe I am just retarded

[Hail Sagan]

If you are then it behooves me to seek out more musical recommendations from the retarded.

[joshuatxuk]

 

so far Arca is the only big electronic act to speak against the idea of an energy drink marketing PR operation being taken seriously int the electronic music community, its just a matter of time before other smart people start calling out how blatantly fucking stupid it is. looking forward to that time

 

 

i remember that, good on him

[Hugh Mughnus]

Actually maybe I am just retarded

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[joshuatxuk]

 

Actually maybe I am just retarded

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[Hugh Mughnus]

I meant it with love, of course

[Danny O Flannagin]

http://www.factmag.com/2015/09/21/oneohtrix-point-never-previews-new-album-in-midi/

 

Edited September 22, 2015 by Danny O Flannagin

[logakght]

neato chord skillz

[doublename]

DaniLo doing big things